OK, I'm working up a bid for a HOA fence 1700 feet 6' privacy Clean and Seal with brick post/columns about every 50 feet of so, its about 10 years old never been treated, not in horrible shape . Was planning on using WT for this so I figured a little low on the coverage area (150 per sq) I figured $2,145 for stain. 60ish gallons. i figured my total would be right at about $5,000. let me know if this is way off or not for a fence this size. I figured 4 days total time with 1 helper on 2 of those days. I think this might be a bit low but thats why I'm here posting
thanks
Yes I would say your off.. Most would make going on double what you will end up making.
How long do you think it take you to apply chems and properly clean? 1 day..2 day? Not sure I would want to count it as an 8 hour day. I'd call it 12 hr.
The staining I would count on somewhere from 70-100ln. ft. per hour moving pretty good so that is say 17-24 hours (3 day)
Ok so maybe the clean seems abit long (fences are easy) and so lets take the low figure of the staining and but keep that 12 hr figure for the clean.. we get 29 hr (or 3.625 days work...468 ln. ft. per day or 2814 sq. ft per day cleaned and stained)
29hr x $210 per hr (stain included)= $6090
$6090/10200= approx. 60 cents per ft. ( 35 cents staining, 25 cents cleaning)
Your figure of 5k while using 60 gal of WTW will make you about $98 per hr. at my hour figures above... or less than 28 cents tot. for doing hard labor of both cleaning and staining..that is way low! (5k-2145=2855/10200=.279)
I would want and hope for your sake the stain goes closer to 190 ft but you can't rely on that at all.
I on the other hand would not use that product on said fence as it cuts too much into my bottom line goals. It gonna be hard enough as it is to secure the job as fences don't pay all that great to begin with and you got to throw on the commercial HOA consideration..why throw such an expensive product at it?
If I use a product such as Omax that is known to get me closer to 220 and I leave some cussion room and call it 190 I make good money at a competative 60 cent figure...
10200/190= 53.68 gal. Call it 55 gal..cost is $122x11 fivers=$1342...$6090-$1342= $4748 or $163.72 per hour
More than likely my stain cussion will absorb my cleaner and gas costs.
Your $98 an hour is ok for straight flat work but not for wood work involving chems and staining activities.
Timberseals 'plus stain' route on fence takes abit more money from table at $176 per hr based on my 29 hour estimate. His example price is 50 cent and mine is close as the stain I mention ends up about 10 cent fer me retail. If job works out to 5 day for his crew then figures change drastic to $127.5 per hour.
If my figures are right, and I know they are FOR ME, we can see I am shooting for about $1300 per 8 hr day. If I got slow or lazy and go 5 day then I end up at $950 a day. In the end of this disection I know I would rather say to a commercial client "stain included" and if they interested I can also tell them a brand name they will know. When they hear 5-7 year product included at 60 cent figures I believe they gonna sign the dotted line with no worries..
I also prefure spending almost a grand less for product to get job done but that's just me...
What I like about large fence is the chunk of money they can bring without much expectations by customer.
I would do them all the time if I could. Even doing 2 of these per mon. for 5 mon. out of the year say April through August means a somewhat hassle free $5400 per mon. all year long.