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Offline Powerhouse John

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Re: Question for those that know about ratios
« Reply #48 on: March 16, 2010, 09:52:41 AM »
Thar mix, with a xjet will kill some plants. Sunshine, call me.


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 0.75 - 1.25% is the range for normal to hot.  1.5-2% is a recipe for dead plants and complaints.

this will result with 1% SH on the house using the gray tip


The x-jet draw ratio is determined by the pumps flow rate and varies significantly unit-to-unit.  Always test your machine configured as you use it in the field and KNOW your actual draw rate...


I don't mean to steer anyone wrong.  I have a formula from what I thought was a trusted source.  I'll adjust my formula.  Thanks for catching that.
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Re: Question for those that know about ratios
« Reply #49 on: March 16, 2010, 10:16:44 AM »
Thar mix, with a xjet will kill some plants. Sunshine, call me.


I know that you are probably working like crazy right now while you are on the road, thank you.

I don't need an answer ASAP as it is still hovering around freezing temperatures, so let me know what work best for you, I don't mind waiting until you are done.

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Re: Question for those that know about ratios
« Reply #50 on: March 16, 2010, 10:21:17 AM »
Phillip, I verify the flow by using my foamer hose to fill a 5 Gal bucket and time it right?
I did not even stop to think that it could be different than the flow coming to my main wand..

I will have my guy check it for me next time he goes out as we are still antifreezing and blowing the machine out.

Offline Philip93

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Re: Question for those that know about ratios
« Reply #51 on: March 16, 2010, 11:16:36 AM »
I verify the flow by using my foamer hose to fill a 5 Gal bucket and time it right?


Measure your pump flow as it will be used.  It's you're using an foamer normally, use a foamer.  Ideally, they all flow at their rated capacity, but that's not always reality. Take a few minutes once a year and check it.

If you have a tank, this is easy.  Run out 25, 30, 50 gallons (About 5-10 min, depending on your tank's markings) and divide.  You now know you're pump averages X gallons/minute under a working load. 

Now repeat that with your chem line (5-10 min) in a marked 5 gallon bucket.  You can use water instead of chems, or you can do this at a job.  If your chems have a different viscosity that water (like spray wax), use real chems.  How many gallons of chem did you suck in that time? Just divide by minutes to get gals/min of chem.  If you're smart, you've already figured out that you can do water and chems at the same time.

If you don't have a tank, you just need to put the output into a container for measurement. total output - chems used = water flow.   I'd recommend a 55'er as a 5 will lose a lot of output as splash/spray.  Also, 5 gal is a pretty small sample to gauge flow rates. Try to run 5 min or so to get a good average. 


Now that you know gals of chem per minute and gals of water per min you can figure your ratio. Obviously, Water:chem = your ratio.  For those with x-jets, repeat this with all the restrictors you use.

It sounds like a lot, but it only takes about 20 minutes. Once you know your machines working ratios, you can easily use the absolute minimum necessary to get the job done .
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Re: Question for those that know about ratios
« Reply #52 on: March 18, 2010, 11:27:25 PM »
I like to keep things simple.

5 gallons of SH in a bucket.
Add 8 ounces of Simple Cherry and mix good.
Downstream using a good downstream injector.
Spray using 2530 or 1530 or 2540 or 1540 nozzles for up close work, for the higher up stuff use 0030 or 0040 nozzles. You decide what nozzles you like the best when cleaning.

For my 5.6gpm 3000psi machine I like to use the 1540, 2540 and the 0040 nozzles. With the 0040 nozzles I can hit the high 2nd story eaves no problem or the gable vents easily.

Give it some dwell time like 5 to 15 minutes then hit the bad spots again if there are any then dwell again then rinse if all the black and green stuff is gone.

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