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Offline PTPW

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I received a call today looking for some information about costs associated with providing a "quick rinse off" of brand new cars parked outside of the final assembly plant.  They explained that they have warranty costs due to atmospheric fallout landing on the cars which if left on for too long damages the paint job.  I am familiar with truck fleet pricing, and have read anywhere from $1.00 - $2.00 per car for dealership cleaning, but this job is a bit different.

They are not looking for a typical car lot wash since the vehicles will be prepped and cleaned once they arrive at the dealership.  He just wants the horizontal surfaces rinsed off, no soap, no DI water, no drying. 

The good news, they need it done every 7 - 10 days and there is always at least 500 cars there, sometimes 1,000.  The bad news is there is only water at one end of a very large (he said acres) lot.  I have the ability to bring 400 gallons, and figure I could run enough supply hose to keep me full for at least the first 200-300 cars.  I figure if I use 3 gallons per car (5.6 gpm machine), I will be able to do roughly 130 cars before I would have to stop and refill my supply tank.  Therefore I should be able to wash approx 400 cars before I have to stop to refill.  If there are 500 cars, there will be one refill required, if there are 1000 cars I would have to refill 5 times.

If I assume they can supply water at 8 gallons per minute (will verify when I walk through the site), that is 50 minutes to refill, and in the case of 1000 cars would add up to four hours of time spent waiting for the tank to refill.

So, my question is: how would you estimate the job, a value per car, if so how much?  Or an hourly rate, if so, how much?  Please keep in mind this is the Auto industry, in MI, but they already have a certain dollar amount set aside per car for warranty paint repair so this is actually a way for them to save money.

I appreciate your thoughts and opinions.
Bill - Perfect Touch Power Washing
Flat Rock, Michigan
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Offline moody1

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I probably shouldn't reply to this because I have no experience in that field, but I would think a per car rate is the way to go.  Why should it matter to them how long it takes you to do your work (as in hourly rate)?  Also, if you put in a bid with an hourly rate, then they have no idea how much it is going to cost them.  If you put in a bid with a per car rate, then they know their exact cost.  Also, with a per hour rate they will get pissed when they see you sitting there waiting for your tank to get full.  Why should they pay you to fill your tank just because you don't have a bigger tank?  What is the incentive for you to work faster (more efficiently) at an hourly rate?  Just playing devil's advocate.  There is just too much subjectivity with an hourly rate for a contractor. 

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+10 if we bid truck fleets at 100 dollars an hour you wouldnt get many but if you price them by the piece and it comes up to 100 an hour its much better if you do it by the piece.Slow the flow of your washer down and wash away
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All we do is car lots. Even though you are not drying or using DI water keep in mind your time refilling. I would per car at a minimum of $1.25 ea. That is just my 2 cents.
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Thanks for the responses guys.  I was leaning towards a per car price as well as I agree that the sticker shock of per hour would send most people running.  I hadn't really thought about the perception of the hourly rate as I'm waiting while the truck fills back up, but that is a great point as well.

My concerns with per car pricing are, 1. 500 cars would require 1 - 40 minute fill up, while 1000 cars would require 5 - 40 minute fill ups.  It's tough to put a per car price in place that doesn't screw them on the lower end (and make me uncompetitive) or make the job not profitable for me on the high end of cars washed.  I think a tiered pricing plan where we actually charge more per car for more cars washed would boggle their mind.

2. What if the day that I review the location their water consumption is low and I get a test sample of 8 gallons / min, but then for some reason on wash days their consumption is higher and water flow is lowered down to the 5 gallon / min range, that would be a major increase in time spent on the job.

These are pretty much just rhetorical questions that I need to figure out, but if anyone has a suggestion, I'm all ears!

Thanks gain.
Bill - Perfect Touch Power Washing
Flat Rock, Michigan
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If it were me, I would drop a tank with a float valve to start filling as I began the first batch of cars.  When my first tank was empty, I would go back to the tank at the fill location and drop one of Bob's pressure washer powered pumps into the tank and be filled and on my way in way under the forty minutes that you speak of.

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If it were me, I would drop a tank with a float valve to start filling as I began the first batch of cars.  When my first tank was empty, I would go back to the tank at the fill location and drop one of Bob's pressure washer powered pumps into the tank and be filled and on my way in way under the forty minutes that you speak of.




I would use a sludge sucker and get about 40gpm per minute for transfer
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Thats the animal that I'm talking about Jim.  We have carried a 325 on the truck to refill the 225 on the trailer to wash houses that are on cisterns.

I couldn't even take a decent break before my son has the tank refilled and is ready to go back to work.

Sludge suckers rock for water transfer.
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