Topic: What's your take on this new rig?

[Philip93]

As for the rig, build it yourself or find a going out of business sale.  You'll get more for less and be happier.

It only lasted 2 years of 5 nights a week use having nothing but hot water run through them, quite often from boilers that put out 180 degree plus water.  I had a general that took a dump after I accidentally ran hot water through it once.

Am I missing something?  Why do you have the burner before the pump?

I would agree with the suggestions made above, don't waste the money on hot water if your only looking to do residential work.

I disagree.  IMHO, if you're doing any substantial amount of concrete (comm or resi**), hot water will improve your productivity enough to pay for itself very quickly.  And it leaves you with the ability to bid commercial work.

** around here the typical driveway is 15-2500sq.ft, with higher end homes being 5-10K.  They mildew quickly, and are great upsell on a resi package.

[RMedbery]

Its a cold water machine that I run hot water through, I dont use a burner.  The restaurants hot water typically runs about 120-140 degrees, occasionally a place will have a boiler not a water heater, then the temps will be 180 depending on where you hook up.  I run Cat pumps exclusively when running hot water through them because they hold up so well. 

So, I was being sarcastic in my previous post in response to Williams statement of fact that Cat pumps are garbage.

[moody1]

Roger,
I am positive that you have a lot more experience than me, but I do know this:
If a pump says not to run hot water through it, then it is not meant to have hot water run through it.  You cannot fault a General Pump (or Cat, Comet, or Udor *which I had never heard of until a few days ago) for behaving the way it told you it would behave, unless your pump said it was designed to accommodate hot water.  Why pump specifically says that hot water will void its warranty.  Ceramic, brass, rubber, and steel expand at different rates, which I would think would cause extreme wear on a pump that is not designed for hot water.  However, I may be missing something here, so please don't be offended by my post.

[Sunshine]

Gerald, go with a hot water unit, you live in an area where there is a lot of farming and agriculture. I think that you will find it comes in handy.

Also, there was a listing under trucks in usedwinnipeg.com I believe, where there is a truck and Landa machine for sale. He is asking WAY too much money, but it's been advertised forever. You might be able to bring him down in price. I always have a hard time finding the ad, if I do though I will post it for you.

[soupy]

Soleil,

Did you get my message about your Whisper Wash?

[RMedbery]

Roger,
I am positive that you have a lot more experience than me, but I do know this:
If a pump says not to run hot water through it, then it is not meant to have hot water run through it.  You cannot fault a General Pump (or Cat, Comet, or Udor *which I had never heard of until a few days ago) for behaving the way it told you it would behave, unless your pump said it was designed to accommodate hot water.  Why pump specifically says that hot water will void its warranty.  Ceramic, brass, rubber, and steel expand at different rates, which I would think would cause extreme wear on a pump that is not designed for hot water.  However, I may be missing something here, so please don't be offended by my post.

Not offended at all.  I was just sharing my experience with Cat pumps.  They can hold up to pumping hot (sometimes very hot) water.  Granted only 2 years, but Id say thats pretty damn good.  And Im not faulting a general or AR pump for not being able to hold up to hot water, your right, they werent made to............but neither is the cat............and yet it holds up.

[Philip93]

Its a cold water machine that I run hot water through, I dont use a burner.  The restaurants hot water typically runs about 120-140 degrees, occasionally a place will have a boiler not a water heater, then the temps will be 180 depending on where you hook up.  I run Cat pumps exclusively when running hot water through them because they hold up so well. 

Interesting.  Never thought of that use as it's very easy just to flip "on" and get endless hot water.

So, I was being sarcastic in my previous post in response to Williams statement of fact that Cat pumps are garbage.

That I got...

[Sunshine]

Soleil,

Did you get my message about your Whisper Wash?

No,

I'll go and take a look in my Inbox now and get back to you today